When
The Sun Hits interviews
John
Rungger and Cory Osborne of Lightfoils
interview conducted by amber.
Lightfoils /`laɪt•fɔɪlz/ n :
a: Devices that generate lift by bending light.
b: One of Chicago’s brightest new bands, pushing the Shoegaze
genre into new territory. Formed in 2010 and recently signed to Saint Marie
Records, the band is already generating heat, having played at SXSW in 2012
and opened for other interstellar bands like Ringo Deathstarr, Telescopes,
Nightmare Air and Ume. Tone-bending guitarists Zeeshan Abbasi and Neil
Yodnane stir up a mesmerizing haze, a wintry blizzard punctuated by occasional
bright blasts of slashing chords. Things are firmly grounded by the propulsive
and tight rhythm section of Cory Osborne on hypermagnetic bass and John Rungger
on shimmering, bruising drums. Hovering above and shining through the fog is
the angelic voice of Jane Zabeth. As a whole, the band’s music somehow occupies
a place between storm and calm, with corridors of sound in-between. If reverie
has a sound, this is it. Should you wake up or keep dreaming? They dangle
either option in front of you, both just out of reach. Lightfoils have one
eponymous EP, and their debut LP will be out in 2013. Amazing on record,
stunning live, Lightfoils is a band to watch out for.
How and when was the band formed?
John: A few
years back, Cory and I were in Airiel. After exiting stage left, we split up to
do other projects of a non-shoegaze variety. Well, like a crook who just
couldn't keep his nose clean, Cory decided to get back into the shoegaze
racket. I signed up immediately, and we got some likeminded individuals on the
job. Just like Oceans 11, but with more reverb. Now we're working on our
biggest heist yet- that of the hearts and minds of the nation's shoegazers.
Cory:
We had also worked with Zeeshan in Airiel - we knew his sound would be key
in keeping everything hazy. Neil was a mutual friend and former bandmate
of John's, I really feel that as a guy whose background isn't quite as
gaze-centric as ours he adds a cool "outsider perspective" and sounds
that help kind of set us apart from a more cookie cutter, "niche"
sound. After our first vocalist Nicole left the group, we were terribly
fortunate to get reunited with Jane (she had done some vocal work on Airiel's
"The Battle of Sealand"). Jane is a massive part of our music
now, I hope that people will be pleasantly surprised when they hear the new
stuff.
Can you tell us what the band has been
working on and what you've got forthcoming in the near future (new releases,
tour, etc.)?
Cory: The new
record really has become our focus. It seems like we've been working on
it forever- we're really looking forward to just getting it out and promoting
it.
Do you consider your music to be part of
the current shoegaze/dream pop scene, or any scene? Defining one's sound by
genre can be tiresome, but do you feel that the band identifies closely with
any genre? How do you feel about genres in music, in a general sense?
John: We're
ok with the shoegaze tag. We started the band with the express purpose of being
shoegaze, and fitting into that genre. That said, I think that we at least try
to push the boundaries of the genre a bit. We have some songs that are more
psych influenced, a genre that is still closely related to shoegaze, so I guess
we aren't pushing that hard haha. Also, I believe shoegaze is a genre that
provides a lot of room to move around in. I mean, think of the disparate music
that is all lumped under that banner. If some musicians chafe under the constraints
of a genre label, at least shoegaze is more of a loose-fitting straightjacket.
Plus, we all love that particular sound that shoegaze is about- gauzy,
ephemeral guitars and vocals. But, somehow, distorted as hell at the same time.
Cory: I feel
that the shoegaze moniker has been sort of a catch-all, honestly. There
are some common themes, but when you compare the cacophony of Ride rocking out
to the dizzying beauty of the Cocteau Twins it's clear that there is a ton of
difference in what they're producing sonically. To me, Shoegaze is much more of
a scene than a genre, a tightly knit group of musicians and fans whose musical
and aesthetic tastes overlap under the shoegaze banner. I like to think
the scene is still evolving...I mean look at Bloody Knives, it's beautiful and
wall-of-soundy, but also visceral and violent. So yeah - there's a lot of
room for expression and different feels.
What do you think of modern
shoegaze/dream pop/psychedelia artists, any favorites?
John: I'm
partial to some of the new keyboard-based shoegaze, like I Break Horses, Io
Echo, and (older) M83. Also, bands like Tamaryn and Ringo Deathstarr, who are
doing a more "classic" gaze sound. There's also a lot of great
bands using shoegaze elements, like Besnard Lakes, Melody's Echo
Chamber, Beach House and Blouse.
Cory:
Man - the shoegaze scene today is as strong as I've ever seen it (and I've
been around since the early '90s). I love what Airiel is doing right now-
you've got bands like Ringo, Bloody Knives, Dead Lea f- and I guess the coolest
thing about it is we get to share the stage with these cats.
What is the most important piece of gear
for your sound? Any particular guitars/pedals/amps that you prefer?
John:
Drummers don't have huge pedal boards, so probably my ride cymbal. And my
limbs.
Cory: I still
like to bust out my beat to shit TSR-12...I've been using it to boom out huge
reverb swells for years.
What is your process for recording your
music? What gear and/or software do you use? What would you recommend for
others?
John: We're
old school, and still believe in going into actual studios to record. There's
just something about the whole band setting up in a room and capturing that
energy and vibe that is not as achievable if you are recording in your bedroom.
Plus, with a live drummer, you need good mics and some room noise to record it
adequately. I guess if we had a drum machine it wouldn't be as important.
Cory: Another
nice thing about studio recording is that you get some outside influence/contribution
on the recording. Sanford Parker has been doing an amazing job of mixing
the new record. His skill and expertise make us sound about 500 times
better than we actually are.
How do you feel about the state of the
music industry today? There is no doubt a massive change underway; how do
you see it and do you feel it’s positive at all?
John: It
hardly matters to us - we've never made a dime off of music. If anything, we've
spent a lot of money over the years to be a musician. Even in the 90s and
2000s, when record companies were still viable, we were never getting paid by
them. Neither were the people that were actually signed to those labels. 90% of
bands never recoup, so they end up owing the record company money, on paper, at
least. The only difference is that that illusion of getting the brass ring,
getting signed and making millions of dollars, is gone now. So now bands have
to do it for themselves, and not for the money, which is how we've operated all
along, anyways.
Cory:
Obviously the industry is finding itself going through a metamorphosis as the
old brick and mortar/radio airplay models seem to be dying. I agree with
John- while it's nice to get paid, in our case it costs us a lot out of pocket
to release songs and get out there to play for people. We all have
"real" jobs- but we're willing to sacrifice time and money to do
this, because we love it so much.
John: I think
a label is there mainly to provide financial support and promotion in return
for a share of the profits. If you can do it yourself, you should, although
some bands don't want to do all the legwork themselves, which is
understandable.
Cory:
It is definitely nice to have a supportive label, especially if they help
out with promoting and doing all the other stuff you gotta do to make records.
That said- I know a lot of folks who are going D.I.Y. and having great
success that way. I think it's just up to the individual artist- what
approach works the best for you and your needs?
Do you prefer vinyl, CD, cassette tape or
mp3 format when listening to music? Do you have any strong feelings toward
any of them?
John: I
prefer vinyl, but it's not very portable. I just got a Google Play
subscription, and it's pretty amazing to be able to listen to obscure 90s bands
in seconds. Although I believe Spotify/Google Play is probably bad for
musicians, overall, because the payout rates are so low. The convenience factor
is incredible, though. I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite.
Cory: Yeah- I
suppose most of the time I'm listening to stuff digitally. I've probably
killed 60% of my hearing for playing without ear protection for two decades- my
aural sense really can't tell the difference between analog and digital these
days. I think vinyl is super cool format though!
What artists (musicians or otherwise)
have most influenced your work?
John: All the
1st wave shoegaze bands. My favorite drummers are Laurence Colbert from
Ride, Benjamin Weikel from Helio Sequence, William Goldsmith from
Sunny Day Real Estate, and Stephen Morris from New Order.
Cory: Yeah-
the 1st wavers for sure. I feel that I draw a lot of inspiration from odd
corners of everywhere- soundtracks, sometimes the sounds of the city, and I get
a lot of inspiration from my bandmates.
Can you tell us a little about what you
are currently into (books, films, art, bands, etc.)?
Cory: I'm a
total dork: I'm pretty into video games. I'm also loving the shit
out of Breaking Bad and Sons of Anarchy. And I live with the irrational
(perhaps not) fear that GRRM is gonna keel over before he finishes Ice and
Fire.
If you had to choose one track that was
the ultimate definition of your sound, which would it be and why?
John: I
really like Hideaway, off our new album. Wait for it!
Cory: For
some reason I still get amped whenever we play Into Deep Sea. The song is
different live- Jane is singing different lyrics and there's a different vocal
melody.
Can you tell us a little about the band’s
song writing process?
John:
Normally, someone, usually Cory, comes in with an idea for a part, we flesh it
out together. Everyone makes their own parts. It's democratic, but I would say
Cory is the main architect of the sound and arrangements, so we usually defer
to him on final decisions.
Cory:
Haha that sounds so despotic! We do a lot of writing together, on
the fly. I like to think that I'm pretty good at isolating parts and
suggesting ways to weave them together to make a song. While the e.p. was
mostly kind of fully fleshed ideas I had from the start, the new record was
written way more organically. I really feel that everybody leaves their
signatures on these tracks.
What is your philosophy (on life), if any, that you live by?
What is your philosophy (on life), if any, that you live by?
John: Make
good art, have fun!
Cory: Live
and let live, I reckon.
Please add whatever additional comments
you would like here:
John: Thanks
to Amber for supporting the scene!